| Shepherds of Christ
January 21, 2009
January 22nd Holy
The Novena Rosary
Came out and this is how sun looked
like a gigantic host I could look at
Jesus said He wants His Blue Book messages circulated
on the phone
from the building in Florida
He wants the prayer chapters started
He wants Apostles of the Eucharistic Heart of Jesus
Please help me spread the Blue Books
January 20, 2009
January 20, 2009
The pictures of the sun were from yesterday January 20, 2009
and the message was received before the pictures were taken.
Given January 20, 2009
Mary: I stood beneath the cross of my Son
and my heart was in such anguish for the
little ones that would be lost forever —
from the Rosary of August 27, 1996
Mary: I stood beneath the cross of my Son, and my Heart was in such pain for I saw Him before my eyes. I saw Him covered with blood. I saw Him die. My Heart, my children, my Heart to watch my Son, but my Heart, my Heart, how I suffered for my little children of the world that give in to this world and give up the love of my Son. O my little children of light, I give you this message. Carry this light into the darkness for your Mother Mary, for I stood beneath the cross and I cried. I cried for the little ones. I cried for the young ones, the ones that do not care and will lose their souls. How do I make you see for you will not listen to me? What can I do? I come. I appear. I beg. I plead. I give you these gifts from my Son, and you reject me. I do not deliver messages very often anymore for I have been ignored. The message is the same. You do not read the messages I have given to you. Please help me. Help the little children. I appear. I appear. I appear, and I am ignored. I stood beneath the cross, and I cried. I cried, and my Heart was in such anguish for my little children, for I am searching for them this day as I searched for the Child Jesus. Please, please help me. I cannot hold back the hand of my Son any longer. I am Mary, your Mother. I ask you to help my children. You are my children of light.
end of Mary's Message, August 27, 1996
Mary: I stood beneath the cross of my Son.
R. I unite all day to the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass —
the Sacrifice of Calvary - sacramentally made present
I know the oneness of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit dwelling
My sacrifice is more pure in the Hearts of
Jesus and Mary.
My place —
oneness with God
At this point of consecration
I give my life —
as an offering
as a member of the body of Christ
in such oneness with God
and Holy Spirit
with all the angels and saints and the souls in
St. Thomas we love you
Dear Holy Spirit come to me and give me Your
Through baptism we receive this sharing
in His life
The Eucharist nourishes this life —
We feed on the very Body and Blood of Jesus —
In the Eucharist I am united to Christ
The Eucharist feeds me.
I see more the vision of God.
I am so one with God —
I am saturated more with His grace
I am more in that image and likeness of God —
I am one with Jesus praying to the Father
in the Holy Spirit with all the angels
and saints and the souls in purgatory —
I am praying for the priests, the Church and
As a member of the mystical body of Christ
I am deeply one with God and with the members
of the mystical body of Christ —
I beg for grace to be poured out on the
souls of the world —
Excerpt fromResponse in Christ
e) Relationship with Members of the Church
There is but one true Church of Christ. Yet this one Church has three different states of existence. There is the pilgrim Church, the Church of this world, composed of members who have received the grace of Christ and strive for its development. They have not yet obtained the goal of their efforts, as have the members of the heavenly Church, who enjoy God in eternal happiness. The Church suffering is an intermediate state of existence necessary for those who had not achieved the required purification as members of the pilgrim Church. Although there are these three phases of the Church’s existence, there is a profound union existing between all the members. All these members possess the same basic life of grace in Christ, and this common life establishes the most intimate bonds of love. In our preceding chapter, we discussed the pilgrim Church. Let us now consider the Church suffering and the heavenly Church.
The members of the Church suffering are those who have departed from this life in an incomplete state of Christian development. Their development is incomplete in the sense that grace has not fully taken possession of them, and, as a result, they are yet closed in upon themselves to a greater or lesser degree. They as yet cannot open themselves out in complete love to the Triune God in the beatific vision. They must undergo a further purification, a purification which could have been achieved upon earth with merit. Now the purification must be achieved with no merit attached. The pain of this purification is mixed with the certain expectation of achieving the vision of God. We can hasten the advent of this vision for this people by the offering of prayers and other good works. Scripture itself refers to our action on behalf of those in purgatory in Chapter 12 of the Second Book of Maccabees beginning with verse 38.
The members of the heavenly Church are those in whom the life of grace has taken full possession and has reached its completion in the life of glory. Faith now is unnecessary, as the light of glory gives the human intellect a new strength and capacity for seeing God face-to-face. While the Christian was a wayfarer, he received the imprint of the indwelling Trinity as he shared in God’s own life. Now in heaven that grace-life and possession of God reaches its completion—the absolute completion is not achieved, however, until the resurrection of the body. The divine persons give Themselves to the beatified in a profound union far surpassing that of the indwelling of the Trinity experienced here below.
This life of heaven is still the Christ-life, for just as we possess a share in Trinitarian life here below as mediated by Christ, and exercise this grace-life as structured by Him, so also in heaven is the mediation of Christ present. In the words of Rahner, "One always sees the Father through Jesus. Just as immediately as this, for the directness of the vision of God is not a denial of the mediatorship of Christ as man."14 And not only does the humanity of Christ unite the blessed to God, but also, in some way, to the whole of creation. This is merely a completion of what is begun here below, namely, the union with Christ in His humanity establishing the Christian in a special relationship with God, with other men, and with the whole of creation. We have a glimpse, therefore, of the fullness of life which members of the heavenly Church possess.
The heavenly Church, as St. Thomas says, is the true Church.15 The Church of this earth and the Church of purgatory are, each in its own way, reaching out in loving hope for the heavenly Jerusalem. Vatican II puts it very simply: "The Church, to which we are called in Christ Jesus, and in which we acquire sanctity through the grace of God, will attain her full perfection only in the glory of heaven."16
The members of the heavenly Church can help us in living our life of grace until we too share its fullness with them. Their power of intercession on our behalf is but another ramification of the communal aspect of Christianity. We are meant to help others grow in Christ. We, in turn, are intended by God to receive aid from others—yes, from members of the heavenly Church, as well as from those with whom we dwell here below.
Not only can we be aided by the saints’ intercession, but the example of the canonized saints can also be of great value to us. They have concretely proved that full holiness is possible. Such an inspiration is of real worth when we are tempted to think that Christian sanctity in its higher degrees is impossible of attainment. Moreover, the canonized saints, in their diversity, teach us that there are many authentic versions of Christian holiness. They can be innovators in showing us that there are numerous possibilities in assimilating the mystery of Christ, although the basic assimilation remains the same for all Christians of all times. In the opinion of Rahner this is one of the chief roles the canonized saints exert in the life of the Church.17
14Karl Rahner, Theological Investigations, Vol. III (Baltimore: Helicon, 1967), p. 44.
15Cf. St. Thomas Aquinas, In Ad Ephes., c. 3, Lect. 3.
16Second Vatican Council, Constitution on the Church, No. 48.
17Cf. Karl Rahner, Op. cit., pp. 100-101.
April 13, 1994
Jesus: How, child, do I, Jesus, tell you I love you? You hold on to silly things when God is in your midst and is ardently loving you. I am Jesus Christ, the Son of God. I am writing to each precious child this day. I am on fire for love of you. I remain in the Eucharist to be with you with My ardent love. I did not want to leave My beloved ones at the Last Supper. I love you so, My dear and ardently loved children. I remain with you this day in the Blessed Sacrament, the same Jesus Who died a brutal death on the Cross.
Do you know I am truly present there? Do you know that God waits every day for you in the tabernacle? Do you comprehend even a minute amount of My love? You will never know of how I love you on earth.
end of excerpt
A Prayer before the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass
Let me be a holy sacrifice and unite with God in the sacrament of His greatest love.
I want to be one in Him in this act of love, where He gives Himself to me and I give myself as a sacrifice to Him. Let me be a holy sacrifice as I become one with Him in this my act of greatest love to Him.
Let me unite with Him more, that I may more deeply love Him. May I help make reparation to His adorable Heart and the heart of His Mother, Mary. With greatest love, I offer myself to You and pray that You will accept my sacrifice of greatest love. I give myself to You and unite in Your gift of Yourself to me. Come and possess my soul.
Cleanse me, strengthen me, heal me. Dear Holy Spirit act in the heart of Mary to make me more and more like Jesus.
Father, I offer this my sacrifice, myself united to Jesus in the Holy Spirit to You. Help me to love God more deeply in this act of my greatest love.
Give me the grace to grow in my knowledge, love and service of You and for this to be my greatest participation in the Mass. Give me the greatest graces to love You so deeply in this Mass, You who are so worthy of my love.
-God's Blue Book, December 27, 1995
December 27, 1995
LET US LOVE THE TWO HEARTS OF JESUS AND MARY
HE GAVE HIMSELF TO US ON THE CROSS. HE GIVES HIMSELF TO US IN THE EUCHARIST.
How great was the act of love, God gave to this world, when He gave Himself and died on the cross. He gives Himself to us this day in the Holy Eucharist.
The greatest commandment is that we must love God with our whole heart, our whole soul, and our whole being. This is a commandment. If we are to enter heaven, we must follow the commandments. They are commands given by God for us to follow.
The greatest act we can do on this earth is an act of loving God. The reason for our existence is to love God. In the sacrament of His greatest love, He gives Himself to us. This is an act of love on His part. We are called to respond by giving ourselves in love to Him.
This is the purpose of the Holy Eucharist: to unite in such oneness with our Holy, Loving God. Our all consuming passion should be that of loving God. How many go to the Eucharist with the sole purpose of giving great love to God? He wants us to love Him. He wants souls to tell Him how much they truly love Him. This is the most intimate act of love when Jesus gives Himself-Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity to man. If it is such an act of love, how are we receiving Him in Communion? We should beg God, in this most intimate union with Him, to help us to love Him with greatest love.
Jesus is a Person. He wants our love. The Holy Spirit wants such intimacy with us. Our Father wants us to love Him. In the Eucharist, we unite with God. In this intimate act of uniting with our beloved God, with Divinity, we must pour out our love to God. We must pour out our heart to the most adorable Heart of Jesus. Jesus is so unjustly treated by many of His beloved souls He loves so much. Let us help make reparation to the Almighty God by loving God with our whole heart, our whole soul, and our whole being in the sacrament of His greatest love. This is the Gift of Himself.
Think of how it is to love someone and give your all for that person, to pour out your heart to him or her and then be treated with coldness and neglect. It hurts our heart so much more when we deeply love someone to be rejected by that person. Jesus loves us with the deepest love. We cannot fully comprehend this love. Let us love Him with the deepest love. Let us love Mary and her Immaculate Heart. Let us love her as the Mother of God. Let us love her as the virgin who bore the Son of God. May we, in the reception of the Eucharist pour out our love to Him, to this adorable Heart. May we pour out our love to His Holy Mother.
Mary said at Fatima that Jesus wants His Heart venerated next to the heart of His Mother. Let us love these two Hearts as we receive the Sacrament of the Eucharist. Then we are so deeply united with God. We see Their two Hearts surrounded with thorns for the injustices against Their Hearts. Let us help make reparation daily as we receive Him in the Eucharist. This is a special time to help make reparation to Their wounded Hearts.
Let us remember how He poured His love out to us on the cross and how He pours out His love to us now when He gives us Himself in the Eucharist, the Eucharist which contains His Heart of burning love. His Heart was pierced with a lance. Her heart was invisibly pierced with a sword. As the wounds in Their Hearts are deep, so too is Their love so deep.
He does not want "surface love". He wants hearts filled with deep burning love.
end of December 27, 1995
At the Last Supper Jesus left us His Body and
Blood in the Eucharist the food
of our souls —
The Eucharist is Christ Himself —
John 6: 51-55
I am the living bread
which has come down from heaven.
Anyone who eats this bread
will live for ever;
and the bread that I shall give
is my flesh, for the life of the world.'
Then the Jews started arguing among themselves, 'How can this man give us his flesh to eat?' Jesus replied to them:
In all truth I tell you,
if you do not eat
the flesh of the Son of man
and drink his blood,
you have no life in you.
Anyone who does eat my flesh
and drink my blood
has eternal life,
and I shall raise that person up
on the last day.
For my flesh is real food
and my blood is real drink.
At Mass the priest puts in a drop of water with
the wine —
we become one with Christ in the Holy Sacrifice
of the Mass —
we are changed more and more into His image and
Christ is truly present in the Eucharist —
Christ still remains with us —
truly present in the Eucharist —
This is a mystery.
I beg you to circulate My Blue Books to
the ends of the earth — I beg you — these are My
letters of love — your world is starving spiritually —
Song: I Love You Jesus
R. In the Mass through the priest —
Bread and wine is changed into the
Body and Blood of Jesus
Bread and wine are on the altar before the
The priest says
"This is My Body"
"This is My Blood"
From the Eucharistic Prayer I
The priest takes the bread
"Take this, all of you and eat it:
this is my body which will be given up
The priest takes the cup of wine:
"Take this all of you, and drink from it:
this is the cup of my blood,
the blood of the new and everlasting
It will be shed for you and for all,
so that sins may be forgiven.
Do this in memory of me."
At the moment of consecration —
bread becomes the Body of Christ —
wine becomes His Blood —
Christ the high priest —
Hebrews 5: 1-10
Every high priest is taken from among human beings and is appointed to act on their behalf in relationships with God, to offer gifts and sacrifices for sins; he can sympathise with those who are ignorant or who have gone astray, because he too is subject to the limitations of weakness. That is why he has to make sin offerings for himself as well as for the people. No one takes this honour on himself; it needs a call from God, as in Aaron’s case. And so it was not Christ who gave himself the glory of becoming high priest, but the one who said to him: You are my Son, today I have fathered you, and in another text: You are a priest for ever, of the order of Melchizedek. During his life on earth, he offered up prayer and entreaty, with loud cries and with tears, to the one who had the power to save him from death, and, winning a hearing by his reverence, he learnt obedience, Son though he was, through his sufferings; when he had been perfected, he became for all who obey him the source of eternal salvation and was acclaimed by God with the title of high priest of the order of Melchizedek.
Hebrews 6: 10-20
God would not be so unjust as to forget all you have done, the love that you have for his name or the services you have done, and are still doing, for the holy people of God. Our desire is that every one of you should go on showing the same enthusiasm till the ultimate fulfilment of your hope, never growing careless, but taking as your model those who by their faith and perseverance are heirs of the promises. When God made the promise to Abraham, he swore by his own self, since there was no one greater he could swear by: I will shower blessings on you and give you many descendants. Because of that, Abraham persevered and received fulfilment of the promise. Human beings, of course, swear an oath by something greater than themselves, and between them, confirmation by an oath puts an end to all dispute. In the same way, when God wanted to show the heirs of the promise even more clearly how unalterable his plan was, he conveyed it by an oath so that through two unalterable factors in which God could not be lying, we who have fled to him might have a vigorous encouragement to grasp the hope held out to us. This is the anchor our souls have, reaching right through inside the curtain where Jesus has entered as a forerunner on our behalf, having become a high priest for ever, of the order of Melchizedek.
"You are a priest forever, in the
line of Melchizedek"
Shouldn't we pray as God has asked us in
the Shepherds of Christ for the priests, the Church
and the world — ?
The priest brings us Jesus, truly present on
the altars of the world —
Mark 9: 2-10
Six days later, Jesus took with him Peter and James and John and led them up a high mountain on their own by themselves. There in their presence he was transfigured: his clothes became brilliantly white, whiter than any earthly bleacher could make them. Elijah appeared to them with Moses; and they were talking to Jesus. Then Peter spoke to Jesus, "Rabbi," he said, "it is wonderful for us to be here; so let us make three shelters, one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah." He did not know what to say; they were so frightened. And a cloud came, covering them in shadow; and from the cloud there came a voice, "This is my Son, the Beloved. Listen to him." Then suddenly, when they looked round, they saw no one with them any more but only Jesus.
As they were coming down from the mountain he warned them to tell no one what they had seen, until after the Son of man had risen from the dead. They observed the warning faithfully, though among themselves they discussed what 'rising from the dead' could mean.
1 Peter 3: 18-22
Christ himself died once and for all for sins, the upright for the sake of the guilty, to lead us to God. In the body he was put to death, in the spirit he was raised to life, and, in the spirit, he went to preach to the spirits in prison. They refused to believe long ago, while God patiently waited to receive them, in Noah’s time when the ark was being built. In it only a few, that is eight souls, were saved through water. It is the baptism corresponding to this water which saves you now—not the washing off of physical dirt but the pledge of a good conscience given to God through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who has entered heaven and is at God’s right hand, with angels, ruling forces and powers subject to him.
A Message for the Earth from Jesus
January 22, 1998
I am the Good Shepherd, these are My prayers, the prayers I give to help renew the Church and the world, all prayer chapters are asked to include these prayers (found in the Shepherds of Christ Prayer Manual). As My Apostles and Shepherds I ask you to encourage all existing Chapters to try to encourage all existing prayer groups to pray the Shepherds of Christ prayers. Encourage all Churches to pray these prayers. It is most urgent that the people of this earth concur with the Father's wishes to begin Prayer Chapters. This is an urgent request from the Good Shepherd. The flock will become one when they have given their hearts to Jesus and Mary. Encourage all priests to pray the Shepherds of Christ prayers. Your world will be lighted with great light as the people of this earth pray these prayers.
My promise is this to you My beloved earth: When you give your heart to Me and spread the devotion to My Sacred Heart, I will write your name In My Heart. I promise to give the greatest graces when you pray these prayers for renewal of the Church and the world and take all who pray them deeply into My Heart. The prayers I give will bring about the reign of My Sacred Heart and the triumph of Mary's Immaculate Heart. I am Jesus Christ, this is My message of January 22, 1998, Please circulate this message to your world. I am the Good Shepherd, I know Mine and Mine know Me and they follow Me. Grace My Shepherds, I will give you the greatest graces for spreading these words to this earth and to your Church. I love you, I am Jesus Christ, the Son of Man, it is the Plan of the Father that Prayer Chapters are begun immediately and the Priestly Newsletter is given to all priests. The Voice of the Good Shepherd speaks through it.
end of January 22, 1998
13 Years Ago
January 20, 1996 - After Communion
Jesus: My beloved priests:
I love you with the deepest love. Many of you are going through motions. Your hearts are cold and you have turned yourselves to the things of this world.
I came to you with a kind and loving heart and I am rejected by My beloved chosen ones.
I call you to love, to a deep love affair with Me. How My Heart bleeds for the indifference and coldness of many of My priests.
I call you to love – to giving of yourselves, to consecration to My Heart and the heart of My Mother.
I suffered so through My Passion, but My greatest agony was from the coldness and lack of love I received from My beloved priests.
I beg you, My child, to speak to My priests, to speak to all who will listen about My burning love. I give to you great graces that you may deliver the messages of Our love for this world.
I will shelter you in My Heart and lead you on your way to speak to the religious about the Mass.
I call you to speak and to sing My songs of love.
How I love you. I have chosen you. I am asking for your selflessness to respond to My request. Speak – I speak in you. Love, Jesus
end of January 20, 1996
January 21, 1996 - 6:00 a.m.
Jesus: How My Heart ached for the rejection of those I loved so dearly, some of My beloved priests and religious. I am espoused to them in a special way, and I am treated with such disrespect and irreverence by many of them. They wear the titles, "Father" and "Sister" and do not even come to Me.
It is being loved by an unfaithful spouse. They are busy for their own self-gratification and have forgotten the great title I have bestowed on them.
They do not see how favored they are by Me, the Almighty God. They seek their love from all other sources.
How it offends My aching Heart! The thorns that surround My Heart pierced deeply because of the indifference of some of My beloved priests and sisters.
It is through their love I give such love to My flock and the devil has led them astray. My flock is withering and dying in their hearts for many of My chief shepherds have gone astray.
I beg, beg, beg you to speak to the priests and religious, to spread My Second Blue Book to all priests. Do not worry about the funds. My flock is dying from within. Their hearts have shriveled within their chest. They go through motions.
Do the priests stand before the people and preach the love of God from their hearts or from their mouths?
The love given to Me from My religious is so shallow. I am rejected entirely by many, yet they continue to administer the Sacraments and carry their titles. They do not realize the great honor that is given to them!
You suffer the pains in My Heart for My beloved religious. The rejection, the busyness, the lack of love – how this offends My tender Heart.
The religious are My chosen ones. I picked them and gave them My tenderest love. Some have hearts that have turned to ice.
The priest is the key to spreading the messages of My burning love in the Church. Many speak without emotion for in their hearts they are dead. They do not fill their own hearts with the love of God. They try to fill their hearts with the world and speak about the love of God.
I lament the lack of love from My chosen priests. The families come, the hungry souls come to be fed and many priests do not feed their hunger.
I love, I love so deeply My beloved religious. I cry out to spread these messages of My burning love.
They are going through motions. My beloved flock comes to My altar with cold hearts. Many priests are cold in their hearts. The world is cold in their heart. The families that go to church are not being fed with messages of My burning love.
Mass after Mass, after Mass is said lacking emotion. Where are the hearts that empty themselves? Please circulate the messages about the Mass. When will the time be right?
I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Unless the messages of My burning love are transmitted in the Church the bloodshed will continue. Your Church bears the marks of sin and suffering. My love, burning and on fire is the mighty medicine for the sick world and the Church. I beg you to circulate these messages on the Mass and the rosary. I am Jesus. My souls are hungry and begging to be fed.
Pray for the priests as never before. Satan has waged a war against the priesthood. Priests and religious need to have a devotion to My Sacred Heart and My Mother's Immaculate Heart. Until hearts are consecrated to Our Hearts there will not be peace in the world. Consecrate your homes and your hearts to the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.
I love with the deepest burning love. I want hearts that love Me with a deep, burning love. Come to Me and I will teach you about love. Go to the world and you will be taught the things of the world. The hearts of many of the members of My Church have turned cold. Give them the messages of My burning love! Little children need to know how I love them! What good is it for a man to run down a road that leads nowhere?
I am the Way. I am the only way. Life is not life if it is not rooted in Me.
end of January 21, 1996
Interview with Father Carter
January 20, 1995
April 29, 2002
Here is an interview with Father Carter
January 20, 1995.
This was the day
after the meeting
January 19, 1995 referred to in yesterday's
message in which Fr. Carter attended
and very carefully discerned the
material for the meeting.
Here is an interview
with Fr. Edward Carter, S.J.
January 20, 1995 in his office in
This interview was on video tape.
See the beautiful
building Hinkle Hall
at Xavier University and the
snow covered hill and big trees
along Victory Parkway at Dana.
April 29, 2002 message continues
Fr. Carter was dressed in his black collar
behind his desk with the blinds
closed behind him.
Interviewer: Father could you tell us
a brief history of
your life, recap your life, through ordination
and before you had the conversion of tears
Fr. Carter: (In his office at Xavier
Well, I had a rather normal childhood, I was
born in Cincinnati, Ohio went to Guardian
Angels grade school, St. Xavier
high school, Xavier University
of which I am now a faculty member,
and after my senior year at Xavier
University I entered the Jesuits.
I was growing up before that period of
entering the Jesuits.
Fr. Carter: A few remarks about my
I was always very interested in sports.
I played much football and baseball,
I had some thoughts as I
remember about the
priesthood as early as one of my years in
high school, I forget exactly which year
for my high school career, but certainly after my
freshman year, I believe it was, at Xavier University,
after my first year of college this thought strongly
presented itself to me and then some
complications arose and it seemed best
to delay my decision, so I did and to some
extent I forgot about it but then the
beginning of my senior year the Lord came
back to me with a rather strong movement of
grace to reconsider whether I should become
a priest or not.
Fr. Carter: So I finally decided at
the beginning of my
senior year at Xavier to enter the Jesuits.
I went through the regular process of being
accepted and I entered the Milford
novitiate which is the novitiate at that
time. It was the novitiate for the Chicago
Province of the Society of Jesus out here in
Milford, Ohio which is on the outskirts of
Cincinnati—I entered on August 8, 1951 and
I took my first vows as a Jesuit two years
later on August 15, 1953. So both my first
vow date and final vow date, both of them
occurred on August 15, the Feast of the
Fr. Carter: So very providentially,
I was very
much linked to Mary in my Jesuit
vocation relative to my vow dates.
I always had a deep devotion to Mary.
It was obviously the workings of grace. I
can remember back very, very early in my
childhood often saying the Hail Mary throughout
the day, but all this occurred amidst as they say
a very normal childhood, adolescence.
Then after I got in the
Society I followed the
regular period of training and in those
days it was a total 15 years if you
entered out of high school. Because
of my college I skipped two years of the
training, so I had 11 years to ordination
and then I had some years of doctorate—
doctoral studies after my regular training.
When I finished my
doctoral work at Catholic
University in Washington which was in
theology with a concentration in spirituality,
I was assigned to teach theology at my
alma mater, Xavier University, and that was
a happy occurrence to be able to come back
to my Alma Mater and teach and I have taught
there ever since. I'm in my 29th year on the
faculty of Xavier all in Department of Theology.
Fr. Carter: My specialty in the area
of theology is spirituality
and one of my sub-specialties is the field of
So I've been
studying mysticism many, many
years as one of my specialties in theology
and not realizing that specialty was very
providentially planned by God to prepare me
for my work now which deals so much with
mystical experiences, not only with myself,
but with certain others, analyzing apparitions,
and so forth and so on and writing about them.
So I was prepared for this very, very special
time in my life. I feel called to carry out a
very special mission which God has given
to me as originally through His mother, through
the Mother of Jesus I should say, and in more
recent months through Jesus Himself.
Any follow up questions on that?
Interviewer: Were your parents
important in your decision to
become a priest and do you have any
brothers and sisters?
Fr. Carter: I have one sister, who is
still living, no brothers,
there were just the two of us.
I would say, I received
no real opposition from my parents
and they were very happy in my decision.
A little strange side
mark here—really a lay
professor at Xavier University was
very influential in my deciding to enter—
I was having a lot of doubts—should I enter,
should I not enter. I imagine a lot of people
in trying to discern and decide whether they
have a vocation or not go through those periods
of doubts, and I respected this man, who
was a professor of philosophy, a very, very
spiritual man. And I just ask him if I
could talk to him one day about it and I told
him the doubts I was having. I told him I was
thinking of entering the Jesuits. He said, "Well
go to the novitiate and see what happens, if
you don't go you will never know." So for some
reason and God's providence that was a very, very
decisive factor. I'd always thought its somewhat,
if strange is the right word, perhaps its not the
right word, but I thought it worth remembering
that it was really a lay person who played a very
decisive part in my deciding to become a priest.
Interviewer: Yeah, that's wonderful
The next question I have is could you describe
the first time you received a message from
Jesus in your thoughts at that time.
Fr. Carter: Well, perhaps its better
to distinguish between
when I began to receive them on a regular basis
which was in the summer of 1993 and compared
to the very, very, very, very, very, very first time
when I think I received one. The very first time I think
I received one was soon after my ordination in 1962,
but at that time I did not recognize it as a locution,
I just took it as a strong enlightenment and inspiration.
But as I look back now knowing what I do about
mystical theology, I think it was a legitimate locution,
but then after that all those many years from 1962 up
until 1993 there may have been a few other occasions
which, as I look back now, I could designate as
locutions, but I'd like to say that I began to receive
them on a regular basis in the summer of 1993. And
the one I remember most vividly was the last day
of June of 1993, and of course we all know that June
is the month of the Sacred Heart. It was the last day
of June. I was sitting at my desk and I was looking
at a picture of Jesus, that one which is reported to
resemble His or be His true image and I was looking
at that and not thinking about anything in particular and
I had the real strong message, "I want you to go to
Paray-le-Monial." And that just hit me so strongly.
And it was not the exterior type of locution which
you hear with your external ear but it was one of the
4 types of inner locutions.
divide the locutions into the external
type which you hear with your external ear and the
internal type and they divide those into 4 major types.
So mine have always been the internal type. It was a very,
very strong and clear locution. Jesus said, "I want you
to go to Paray-le-Monial." Well, what or where is Paray-
le-Monial? It's a small town in France not too far from
Paris and that is where Our Lord as the Sacred Heart
appeared to St. Margaret Mary Alacoque and gave His
famous revelations concerning devotion to His Heart.
I'd always wanted to get
there because Jesuits have a very,
very special connection with the experiences of Margaret
Mary because her spiritual director was St. Claude de la
Columbiere, a Jesuit. In the Society of Jesus and the
Congregation of the Visitation of which Margaret Mary
was a nun, was a member, were given a special commission
by Our Lady and Our Lord to spread devotion to His Heart.
So I always wanted to
get there and thought I'd miss my last
opportunity when I was in Europe when I was there about
4 months in 1989. I came close to getting there but I didn't
So here I am June 30th,
1993, sitting at my desk and Our Lord
said, "I want you to go to Paray-le-Monial." So I began to
make the arrangements and I got over there in October on
a pilgrimage with a pilgrimage tour group in October of '93
and lo and behold I was scheduled to go there on another
tour earlier in September but things didn't work out and the
tour company had to re-arrange things so I ended up going
later in October. And can you imagine on what dates we arrived
in Paray-le-Monial? It was October, I'm a little bit ashamed if I
forget it, the 16th, I think its the 16th, we arrived there on the
very feast day of St. Margaret Mary Alacoque, and we made
our holy hour there in the chapel of Apparitions where St.
Margaret Mary received the apparitions from Our Lord and
the messages, at least some of the messages connected with
devotion to His Heart.
So that is one of the
very, very first, that I would say is, I would
like to look upon the time I began to receive locutions on a
regular basis, June the 30th, 1993. And it was as I say the last
day of June which is the month of the Sacred Heart and it was
a call to go to visit this very, very, very special shrine of the
Sacred Heart in Paray-le-Monial.
And so much of my
calling, my own spiritual life and my work
now is connected with promoting devotion to the Heart of
Christ and to the heart of Mary. So you can see the wondrous
workings of Providence.
Interviewer: Do you still have a hard
time believing that you're still getting
messages from Jesus?
Fr. Carter: No. He gives you
conviction, internal conviction, and internal
peace, internal visions, just as there are exterior type
locutions and internal type of locutions, so there is a same
division relative to visions. There are the external types.
And there are the interior type of visions of the imagination of
the intellect and when I receive the locutions I always have the
interior vision of Our Lord under the image of the Sacred Heart.
And they always come under the tremendous sense of peace
which is one of the great signs which mystical theologians always
give for the discernment of spirits whether the experience is
from the Lord or from one's self or from the devil. So they always
are accompanied by this very, very significant peace and authority
really. Sometimes they're stronger than others but they always
come with that note of authority and peace and they always lead
to good, which is another great criteria for spiritual discernment.
By their fruits you shall know them as we have so often heard.
So these locutions have led me to an extremely close union, that's
a gift, with Jesus. So they have promoted my own spiritual growth
tremendously and they have been very much connected with my
ministry and my work for others. So they have enabled me to help
my neighbors in so many different ways.
Interviewer: That's a wonderful gift Father. Thank you so much.
end of interview with Father Carter